I imagine spring break probably screwed with some of Ron Paul's support today...or at least it did in my case

wow exposed

As Morris Berman said: "What I recommend is you get out. Things are only going to get worse in the United States and frankly, they could get quite ugly. That cruelty we talked about is quite telling." I say you leave the US before that becomes a crime, too. Now you have the NDAA, the Trespass Bill, SOPA/PIPA, Citizens United, Guantanamo bay, drone strikes, warmongering (Iraq war= Iran war, you'll see). What I recommend to everyboy is to accept that the US is too corrupt to turn itself around with the current system you have and this year's election is going to be a lose-lose situation for all of us average people because the minute we get together as a group we get ridiculed and ignored (why did the Tea Party survive? because it was anti-government but pro-big business and lobbying). So why not go to a country that is not founded on an obsession with individualism, technology, consumption and which is not built on hustling? Whether you elect a Democrat this year or a Republican: you lose, the oligarchs win. It's that simple.

The alternative voice (socialism) always gets ridiculed and marginalised so I stopped paying attention to Republicans (just plain insane or evil), Democrats (incapable) and Libertarians (who are the worst of the worst because their definition of a society is every man for himself, no social safety net, no social security, no universal healthcare, growing tuition fees, unregulated financial and economic sectors, etc. With them you cannot rely on anyone to help you if you have economic or social problems but you're at the mercy of your neighbour who can very well deny you said help and who's going to make him if there is a minimalist state?). The US is finished and it's China's turn now to become a world power and if that's a natural consequence of the Western capitalist model then what's the big deal? Except that the US culture has never learned to do anything but identify itself by its enemies and if you can't paint the enemy as a totally evil monster then you'r starting to question your own identity. I know many Americans don't like to hear it but a society based on consumption does inevitably lead to its implosion because, at its core, it is empty and none of the candidates you have as a possible president are going to be able to change that because they're as much a supporter of this kind of society as the rest of the establishment.

If the court systems, the education system, the growing industrial-military complex that cannot win 2 small wars, the crumbling financial sector that gets bailed out every year or so are not successful at what they do then either the American "success" should be seen for what it is (namely a failure) or you can still think that at this point there's a leverage you have as a US citizen to turn the situation around but for that you'd have to stop buying consumer goods, consuming vast amounts of energy (oil, gas, etc.) and you should all be actively engaging in protests against the influence of money in politics and the growing economic and social inequality... except that now your 1st Amendment got thrown under the bus with the Trespass Bill and the executive branch gets to decide if you can be assassinated or indefinitely locked away without due process and that's a bipartisan effort, don't make any mistakes here. the language in the most dangerous bills is intentionally vague so that they don't have any trouble dealing with your complaints in a brutal fashion. Your two parties are in fact one big party (and I'm not the first person to say that, ask Noam Chomsky) because on the issues of economy, war, etc. they all agree and they keep fighting each other on small issues so that it looks like there is a difference but these are only minor.

Let the Us Empire go under all by itself. Life goes on even after the US is no longer a world power.

Cilogy wrote:

"Vote for Mitt, you're dumb as shit"

"Next time you hear a politician say he or she will bring down oil prices understand it’s complete [bull shit]. Americans want lower gas prices — cut back. Sell those SUVs. Ride a bike when you can. If every one of us bought 10 percent less gasoline, prices would fall fast. That’s what the candidates should be saying. We need a strong leader who’s honest, smart, courageous and willing to explain dubious associations. That’s what we need."

- Bill O’Reilly

This really needs to happen.

tykjen wrote:This really needs to happen.

Yes. Yes it does.