solo2001 wrote:

RIFA wrote:
You are an *****.

What that has to do with me not agreeing with their movement and not accepting their ways of "changing the world" ?...

90% of what they talk about is the truth. They explain this world's policies etc. which I agree with because that's how things are/work in the current system. However, like I said in my first post, I don't believe that they represent "the good side" because they are part of the same elite they keep talking about. It's like communism (national/international socialism)... sounds good but once applied it results in terror and slavery... the same goes for this Zeitgeist thing... sounds good, looks good, speaks even the truth about many things, but I don't believe in the movement. It's a little bit complicated to you so I won't go further since you have strong issues dealing with concepts and ideas and approvals or denials of them.

So you can't explain what is wrong with it so you result to petty personal insults. You believe in 90% of what they are saying yet you don't believe they represent the "good side" whatever that means. What "elite" are you talking about and what proof do you have to support this preposterous claim that they are apart of this "elite". Your think a resource based economy wont' work because socialism/communism (WHICH HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH A RESOURCE BASED ECONOMY) haven't been properly implemented/haven't worked in the past? Maybe your just not getting your point across clearly but I really have no idea what your argument is.

Inceptionist wrote:Only 10% false?

If you are irrational enough to believe one guy on youtube is able to debunk one part of the first Zeitgeist film which has nothing to do with a resource based economy because he refers to academic scholars just like Peter Joseph who refers to a select experts in their fields, then you are just cherry picking information and if you had seen the last two Zeitgeist films which were made after the movement was created then you would understand that this christ conspiracy has nothing to do with a resource based economy.

Dude, I followed the entire movement for quite a while. I listened to almost of of the radio shows on blogspot. They have some great foundational ideas but they lost me. What they want is no different from the communist vision.

ComptonTerry wrote:I was very interested in what these people had to say right up until they started talking about super intelligent machines making decisions for society...

ComptonTerry wrote:Dude, I followed the entire movement for quite a while. I listened to almost of of the radio shows on blogspot. They have some great foundational ideas but they lost me. What they want is no different from the communist vision.

So communists want to make super intelligent machines that make decisions for society as a collective?

Syncopy528491 wrote:

ComptonTerry wrote:I was very interested in what these people had to say right up until they started talking about super intelligent machines making decisions for society...

ComptonTerry wrote:Dude, I followed the entire movement for quite a while. I listened to almost of of the radio shows on blogspot. They have some great foundational ideas but they lost me. What they want is no different from the communist vision.

So communists want to make super intelligent machines that make decisions for society as a collective?

Communism plus machines is still pretty much communism. Same idea, different execution. No thanks.

What a brilliant and logically cohesive way too sum up the Zeitgeist movement.

ComptonTerry wrote:

ComptonTerry wrote:Dude, I followed the entire movement for quite a while. I listened to almost of of the radio shows on blogspot. They have some great foundational ideas but they lost me. What they want is no different from the communist vision.

Communism plus machines is still pretty much communism. Same idea, different execution. No thanks.

For someone who has followed the movement for "quite some time" you seem to me either completely clueless as to what communism or a resource based economy is. If you did understand what you were talking about you would know that those "robots" are used in the venus project which is no longer apart of the zeitgeist movement and that the zeitgeist movement has NOTHING to do with communism or socialism.
Maybe I haven't gotten my point across entirely but The Zeitgeist movement advocates an economy based off of resources. Communism in entirely different and has NEVER been correctly put in place.





Idea: A concept or mental impression
Execution : carrying out or putting into effect of a plan, order, or course of action.
If your going to use the English language at lease understand it before you attempt to generalize the entire lifeswork of Jacque Fresco to Communism which he has stated that he doesn't support and is fundamentally different to The Venus Project or The Zeitgeist Movement. Before you attempt to debunk TZM or TVP please understand it first.