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I truly hope that if these teens go to college, they can leave this kind of thinking behind because they will be forced to interact with different people and have their viewpoints opened up. But at the same time, a lot of these types of people view college as a "liberalization" institution.

Richard Spencer always goes on and on about having his own ethnostate all the time, maybe they should just all go away to their own little island and leave the rest of us alone. If that happens, I can't wait for reports of failure that I can gleefully mock and make fun of.

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Not only is that man Native American, but also a Vietnam veteran. The sheer amount of disrespect that was shown towards both Indigenous communities and him as an individual, is just astounding. He’s done more for his country than any of those morons will ever do.

“Build the wall”? Lmao did any of them even realize who the fuck they were talking to? Wait, why did I even ask that. Also, there’s a video (can’t link, am on mobile) of another bright bulb saying “land gets stolen, that’s how it works” as said man was talking about Indigenous lands being stolen. Logic totally checks out lol.

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The United States: a land where many people know incredibly little about anything that does not specifically affect them and where people care even less about other people. This society is exceptional in one way and one way only, namely in how long it has existed without ever truly being a society.

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What I'm worried about with the Dems is that the process to unite behind one person is gonna be tedious.

Unlike the GOP, they don't play in the gutter and don't turn every campaign into one giant contest about who is more religiously and sexually repressed than the other. However, there tends to be a lot of back-and-forth snark and pandering to broaden appeal, like it was in 2008. Clinton did it again in 2016 where she was trying to be every kind of lefward candidate possible, and still lost. Lest we forget it was probably Clinton's camp that perpetuated the "Obama isn't American enough" nonsense initially in 2007.

Bernie was great, but it's too late now bruh. Throw your support behind another progressive instead, us kids will follow. People like Booker and Harris seem too entrenched in the establishment. Even Warren doesn't appear to bring anything new or fresh.

We kinda need unity right now, and I'm already exhausted by this process before all the candidates have even been announced.

On top of that, this is gonna be controversial, but I really don't think the country is ready for a female president. Let a lone a female of color. Look at the way Alexandria Ocasio Cortez is being treated right now. She's the triple threat of being female, minority and socialist. She's the proverbial monster under Republican beds.

Americans fucking hate themselves too much right now for that right now. I mean, I'm ready, I have been since forever, but Billy Bob next door not. Plus, a woman candidate is kinda the perfect villain Trump needs to win again.

So I guess what I'm trying to say is ... Beto 2020.

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Certainly not, for a Louis C.K. apologiser.£

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Master Virgo wrote:
January 21st, 2019, 4:40 pm
Certainly not, for a Louis C.K. apologiser.£
Sure, let's go with that narrative.

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Master Virgo wrote:
January 21st, 2019, 4:40 pm
Certainly not, for a Louis C.K. apologiser.£
As this NY Times opinion showcases, she's not a good choice to represent progressives, low income and other people who are victims of the American criminal justice system for a number of reasons (the opinion focuses mainly on criminal justice issues): https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/opin ... stice.html

She has consistently fought or stayed silent on most progressive prison reform ideas, she fought to uphold wrongful convictions secured through evidence tampering, false testimonies, etc..

As California's AG, she appealed in 2014 when a federal Orange County judge declared the death penalty unconstitutional. Not a good look imo.

She has opposed Proposition 47 in 2014, which would have made some low-level felonies into misdemeanours and refused to support statewide standards that would regulate body-worn cameras worn by cops, which earned her hefty criticism from the ACLU, San Francisco's public defender and Democratic state senators.

She has also fought to keep wrongly convicted people imprisoned (ex. the case of George Cage mentioned in the article), despite the existence of clear evidence showing those people's innocence.

This Guardian article goes into further details of her past actions as AG and prosecutor: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... prosecutor

Her practices as prosecutor against sex workers are really shameful. She went after websites that sex workers needed to advertise and she was a vocal opponent of the decriminalisation of prostitution.

In terms of police brutality, she opposed legislation that would have required her as AG to investigate fatal shootings by police as well and generally she showed total inaction in cases of policy brutality that were brought to her attention.

The Democratic Party's base has been to her left for decades and she will have a hard time distancing herself from the injustices she's responsible for.

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