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LelekPL wrote:
June 8th, 2019, 2:42 am
I think he meant that in order to go to Mars they must go to the Moon first. Like a test run or even a future pit stop before longer journeys. At least, I hope that's what he meant.
And this is the tweet btw.
http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/stat ... 7955102720
donald trump supporters who deny moon landing rn:

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Quinnipiac - June 11, 2019 - Top Dems Lead Trump In Head-To-Head Matchups, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; Democratic Primary Race Narrows As Biden Goes Flat
In a first look at head-to-head 2020 presidential matchups nationwide, several Democratic challengers lead President Donald Trump, with former Vice President Joseph Biden ahead 53 - 40 percent, according to a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today.

In other matchups, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University National Poll finds:
Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders over President Trump 51 - 42 percent;
California Sen. Kamala Harris ahead of Trump 49 - 41 percent;
Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren tops Trump 49 - 42 percent;
South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg edges Trump 47 - 42 percent;
New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker by a nose over Trump 47 - 42 percent.
The Washington Post - More brutal 2020 poll numbers for Trump
Quinnipiac University has for the first time conducted national head-to-head polls matching up Trump and some of the leading Democratic presidential hopefuls. None of the matchups is good for Trump.

Trump trails all six by between five and 13 points, with Joe Biden holding the biggest advantage and the lesser-known candidates — Sen. Cory Booker (N.J.) and Mayor Pete Buttigieg — holding the smallest leads.

The findings mirror the limited head-to-head polling we’ve seen in some key early states, with Trump trailing by as much as double digits in crucial Michigan and Pennsylvania, and even trailing Biden in Texas (!) in another Quinnipiac poll. Trump also trails in most national head-to-heads, although often not by as much as Quinnipiac indicates.

As with all polling at this early a juncture, it should not be used to predict any outcomes. Things can and will change. Biden, most notably, remains very popular from his time as vice president, and few analysts expect he’ll be able to maintain that for an entire campaign.
The New York Times - Trump Needs a Target to Stay Interested in His Campaign. For Now, It’s Biden.
After being briefed on a devastating 17-state poll conducted by his campaign pollster, Tony Fabrizio, Mr. Trump told aides to deny that his internal polling showed him trailing Mr. Biden in many of the states he needs to win, even though he is also trailing in public polls from key states like Texas, Michigan and Pennsylvania. And when top-line details of the polling leaked, including numbers showing the president lagging in a cluster of critical Rust Belt states, Mr. Trump instructed aides to say publicly that other data showed him doing well.

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MagnarTheGreat wrote:
June 12th, 2019, 4:37 pm
Quinnipiac - June 11, 2019 - Top Dems Lead Trump In Head-To-Head Matchups, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; Democratic Primary Race Narrows As Biden Goes Flat
In a first look at head-to-head 2020 presidential matchups nationwide, several Democratic challengers lead President Donald Trump, with former Vice President Joseph Biden ahead 53 - 40 percent, according to a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today.

In other matchups, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University National Poll finds:
Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders over President Trump 51 - 42 percent;
California Sen. Kamala Harris ahead of Trump 49 - 41 percent;
Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren tops Trump 49 - 42 percent;
South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg edges Trump 47 - 42 percent;
New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker by a nose over Trump 47 - 42 percent.
The Washington Post - More brutal 2020 poll numbers for Trump
Quinnipiac University has for the first time conducted national head-to-head polls matching up Trump and some of the leading Democratic presidential hopefuls. None of the matchups is good for Trump.

Trump trails all six by between five and 13 points, with Joe Biden holding the biggest advantage and the lesser-known candidates — Sen. Cory Booker (N.J.) and Mayor Pete Buttigieg — holding the smallest leads.

The findings mirror the limited head-to-head polling we’ve seen in some key early states, with Trump trailing by as much as double digits in crucial Michigan and Pennsylvania, and even trailing Biden in Texas (!) in another Quinnipiac poll. Trump also trails in most national head-to-heads, although often not by as much as Quinnipiac indicates.

As with all polling at this early a juncture, it should not be used to predict any outcomes. Things can and will change. Biden, most notably, remains very popular from his time as vice president, and few analysts expect he’ll be able to maintain that for an entire campaign.
The New York Times - Trump Needs a Target to Stay Interested in His Campaign. For Now, It’s Biden.
After being briefed on a devastating 17-state poll conducted by his campaign pollster, Tony Fabrizio, Mr. Trump told aides to deny that his internal polling showed him trailing Mr. Biden in many of the states he needs to win, even though he is also trailing in public polls from key states like Texas, Michigan and Pennsylvania. And when top-line details of the polling leaked, including numbers showing the president lagging in a cluster of critical Rust Belt states, Mr. Trump instructed aides to say publicly that other data showed him doing well.
Quinnipiac had Hillary up by 18 & she lost as Biden will.

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Exactly the kind of bullshit feel good numbers that people passed around literally the night before Trump won

It creates a bubble

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Cilogy wrote:
June 18th, 2019, 7:06 pm
Exactly the kind of bullshit feel good numbers that people passed around literally the night before Trump won

It creates a bubble
It most certainly does. He's drawing bigger crowds than last time he's winning.

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What people keep forgetting is that Hillary's numbers did decline dramatically after the Comey situation, by then it was almost 50/50. And Clinton did get 3 million more votes and lost the election for 100,000 votes in three states, so it's not like the polls were completely off.

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The way people frame the Comey thing has always seemed like a blind rationalization for why Trump won.

It's like running a race and losing, and then blaming the track because it was too flat.

Just fucking, if people are still harping next year about how Clinton lost because of Comey and not because she was a horrible candidate and Trump had the ultimate momentum, then we've learned absolutely nothing and we honestly probably deserve at least another 4 years of Trump.

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The best thing Joe Biden could do at this point is to stop running for president at this point. He's just sooooo desperate to work with Republicans to gut the social safety net and make the rich even richer. "Nothing would fundamentally change". Take that as a campaign slogan and see how the voters will like it. What a pathetic figure.

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