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Who do you think are the 5 most overrated film directors

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RIFA wrote:Wes Anderson - This guy is the definition of overrated. Notice that Wes Anderson's diversity is close to zero. This dude approached all his movies the same way. He has no idea what to do other than a satirical and cartoonish approach of comedy. If you can describe him in two words those would be obnoxious and repetative. Yes, he is entertaining and his movies have heart. But that's not enough to praise him like he's one of the best directors ever. Just like Burton... Wes Anderson lives in his own world. The difference between him and Burton though is in approach and variety.


Nolan can't do anything other than psychological thrillers. John Ford couldn't do anything other than hearty, roaring westerns. Hitchcock couldn't do anything other than suspense. Minnelli could only do musicals, Scorsese can only really do mob films. You can make blanket statements about any filmmaker, but that betrays the fact that you're not really looking very deep into what each film is about.

It's about how Anderson extrapolates and explores the same themes continually. The approach is actually very different even if he maintains the same aesthetic. Tenenbaums is a domestic black comedy, Life Aquatic is an adventure, Fantastic Mr. Fox is a caper, Darjeeling is almost a procession and Rushmore and Bottle Rocket are almost their own things entirely. All of them have key aspects that are common, specifically estranged or dysfunctional father figures, but how each one individually deals with those themes is what sets them apart.

On top of that, Anderson is blisteringly funny, moreso than the vast majority of other filmmakers working today. Certainly moreso than Payne, who genuinely is lavished with more praise than he's worth.

The whole concept of "overrated" is a pile of horse manure in general. What is the point in worrying about what other people think of a film in terms of a rating or anything like that? Just worry about the opinion that you have formulated (and props to you RIFA for actually doing that).
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Like I said I don't really believe in the words "overrated" and "underrated" since they are selfish and childish ways of criticism. I made my list tho to contribute to the thread in a way but I don't personally care about this subject. I saw some great directors being named and I was like "hold on genius, how can that guy be overrated when you have these guys..."

And there are more... Clint Eastwood, Sam Raimi, and the list could go on...

I would say Ridley Scott is terribly underrated considering his influence. Overrated? Not at all.
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ArmandFancypants wrote:Scorsese can only really do mob films.

That is so wrong.

Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, King of Comedy, The Aviator, Shutter Island, Hugo, Cape Fear, The Last Temptation of Christ. What on earth are you talking about?
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Master Virgo wrote:
ArmandFancypants wrote:Scorsese can only really do mob films.

That is so wrong.

Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, King of Comedy, The Aviator, Shutter Island, Hugo, Cape Fear, The Last Temptation of Christ. What on earth are you talking about?


I'm using it as an example of what would also be a misguided generalisation. Which you do actually hear from people, disappointingly.

Also, you forgot After Hours, one of Marty's absolute best. ;)
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Master Virgo wrote:
ArmandFancypants wrote:Scorsese can only really do mob films.

That is so wrong.

Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, King of Comedy, The Aviator, Shutter Island, Hugo, Cape Fear, The Last Temptation of Christ. What on earth are you talking about?


A few of those films are considered failures by many, but your absolutely right. He can do a lot more than Mob movies.
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I've been thinking of this list of a few days, here's what I have...

Most Overrated

Brian De Palma (Some of his movies are worse than Bay movies for fucks sake. That's not a joke either)
Ron Howard (I like A Beautiful Mind, that's about it)
Steven Soderbergh (Good stuff hear and there, but really he's nothing special. Actually far from special I would argue.)
Tim Burton (I think most of us are on the same page here. I don't hate him, but in his whole career he's made maybe 3 movies I enjoy. Alice In Wonderland almost makes me hate him.)

Pretty Damn Overrated

Micheal Mann
The Wachowski Bros. (They made The Matrix which we all love because it's so ground breaking, and I personally really like Reloaded, but other than that what else have they done?)
Sam Raimi (Way more bad movies than good ones)
Wes Anderson (This ones been explained already in recent pages)
Spike Lee
Kevin Smith

Overrated, but also have done many great things and their reputations are earned (For the most part)

Steven Spielberg - An Important and influential man in cinema history that has made movies I love, but his movies generally lack depth and he isn't as daring as his reputation would suggest. He's also made some pretty bad movies, and he seems to care only about money these days.

Oliver Stone - If only it wasn't for that disaster that was Alexander, but also his most recent stuff is getting more and more mediocre)

Clint Eastwood, mainly as a director. He's got some good hits, but most are eehh.

James Cameron - I Love just about everything he's done, yes that includes Avatar, but his writing is flawed and characters can be very cliched. He is IMO definitely the the greatest director of all time FROM A TECHNICAL ACHIEVEMENT STANDPOINT. That still doesn't make him the greatest, his script writing etc brings him down.

Ben Affleck - So far so good. I Like Gone Baby Gone and even more The Town, but he's only made 2 movies yet his reputation would suggest he's been around making great movies forever. I think he'll eventually earn his reputation, but he needs to make some more great movies first.
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damn, the very first name that comes to mind when I see this topic is Nolan. Too bad all the fanboys will stone me. >_>

1. Christopher Nolan - In the big picture of great directors throughout history, Nolan's 'masterpieces' are only about average. They just get more attention then most because of their 'awesome' scale.

2. James Cameron - Don't even get me started on this guy.

3. Wes Anderson - I echo what has already been said. I first saw Tenenbaums and loved it, but after that everything seemed like a shallow formula.

4. Darren Aronofsky - I like most of his films, but they all come off as fevered nightmares with captivating production but shallow depth.

5. Tim Burton - I don't even know how overrated he actually is if most people seem to hate him anyway, but I echo the sentiment.
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PseudoHawk wrote:damn, the very first name that comes to mind when I see this topic is Nolan. Too bad all the fanboys will stone me. >_>

1. Christopher Nolan - In the big picture of great directors throughout history, Nolan's 'masterpieces' are only about average. They just get more attention then most because of their 'awesome' scale.

2. James Cameron - Don't even get me started on this guy.

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PseudoHawk wrote:damn, the very first name that comes to mind when I see this topic is Nolan. Too bad all the fanboys will stone me. >_>

1. Christopher Nolan - In the big picture of great directors throughout history, Nolan's 'masterpieces' are only about average. They just get more attention then most because of their 'awesome' scale.

2. James Cameron - Don't even get me started on this guy.

3. Wes Anderson - I echo what has already been said. I first saw Tenenbaums and loved it, but after that everything seemed like a shallow formula.

4. Darren Aronofsky - I like most of his films, but they all come off as fevered nightmares with captivating production but shallow depth.

5. Tim Burton - I don't even know how overrated he actually is if most people seem to hate him anyway, but I echo the sentiment.

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PseudoHawk wrote:damn, the very first name that comes to mind when I see this topic is Nolan. Too bad all the fanboys will stone me. >_>

1. Christopher Nolan - In the big picture of great directors throughout history, Nolan's 'masterpieces' are only about average. They just get more attention then most because of their 'awesome' scale.

2. James Cameron - Don't even get me started on this guy.

3. Wes Anderson - I echo what has already been said. I first saw Tenenbaums and loved it, but after that everything seemed like a shallow formula.

4. Darren Aronofsky - I like most of his films, but they all come off as fevered nightmares with captivating production but shallow depth.

5. Tim Burton - I don't even know how overrated he actually is if most people seem to hate him anyway, but I echo the sentiment.

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