They are reavers and pirates. The Greyjoys' House words essentially translate into 'we just take your shit because we're too good to work for it'.ChristNolan wrote:Iron Islanders are basically the trailer trash of Westeros
Game of Thrones (TV)
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I just rewatched it and it's an all-timer. Top 3 Game of Thrones episode for sure. Every scene has big shit happening, it's insane.
Best first half-season so far, like someone said earlier, each episode seems to get better than the last.
even if I have a sorta controversial nitpick...
Jon's death in the end was pointless...? Except for the speculation between seasons, it would have been very easy to go straight from 509 to 604 in Jon's arc with him seeing Sansa and receiving Ramsay's letter and deciding to embrace his Stark name. He doesn't even really seem to be changed by the event. Maybe there'll be some payoff later, but that cliffhanger was lame. All the scenes were great, but I don't get why they did it (D&D and/or GRRM)
Best first half-season so far, like someone said earlier, each episode seems to get better than the last.
even if I have a sorta controversial nitpick...
Jon's death in the end was pointless...? Except for the speculation between seasons, it would have been very easy to go straight from 509 to 604 in Jon's arc with him seeing Sansa and receiving Ramsay's letter and deciding to embrace his Stark name. He doesn't even really seem to be changed by the event. Maybe there'll be some payoff later, but that cliffhanger was lame. All the scenes were great, but I don't get why they did it (D&D and/or GRRM)
Pretty much guarantee there's more consequence to Jon's death in the books. GRRM always promised that.Now Where Was I ? wrote:I just rewatched it and it's an all-timer. Top 3 Game of Thrones episode for sure. Every scene has big shit happening, it's insane.
Best first half-season so far, like someone said earlier, each episode seems to get better than the last.
even if I have a sorta controversial nitpick...
Jon's death in the end was pointless...? Except for the speculation between seasons, it would have been very easy to go straight from 509 to 604 in Jon's arc with him seeing Sansa and receiving Ramsay's letter and deciding to embrace his Stark name. He doesn't even really seem to be changed by the event. Maybe there'll be some payoff later, but that cliffhanger was lame. All the scenes were great, but I don't get why they did it (D&D and/or GRRM)
Thoughts on the Kingsmoot and the issues I brought up?
Lol you prefer season 5 to this?Master Virgo wrote:Although his relationship with Bran was getting way too Dumbledore/Harry sque than what was healthy but still. (I mean the whole deal was just recycled elements anyway for the most part Gandalf/Pippin, anyone?) Good episode, nothing really exceptional. I'm standing with critics about this season so far, the weakest of them all by far.£
I really really like Asbaek as Euron, the whole thing was pretty epic and I'm happy they got rid of the dragonhornAllstar wrote:Pretty much guarantee there's more consequence to Jon'a death in the books. GRRM always promised that.Now Where Was I ? wrote:I just rewatched it and it's an all-timer. Top 3 Game of Thrones episode for sure. Every scene has big shit happening, it's insane.
Best first half-season so far, like someone said earlier, each episode seems to get better than the last.
even if I have a sorta controversial nitpick...
Jon's death in the end was pointless...? Except for the speculation between seasons, it would have been very easy to go straight from 509 to 604 in Jon's arc with him seeing Sansa and receiving Ramsay's letter and deciding to embrace his Stark name. He doesn't even really seem to be changed by the event. Maybe there'll be some payoff later, but that cliffhanger was lame. All the scenes were great, but I don't get why they did it (D&D and/or GRRM)
Thoughts on the Kingsmoot and the issues I brought up?
But there were indeed logical problems. I kinda liked the casual kinslaying admission even if it was weird lol, but I don't get how Theon and Yara stole so many ships with such a small crew. The montage was great though, the Ironborn theme is probably my favorite theme of the show.
Yeah, I really liked a lot of it. Logistically it just hasn't held up for me.
I agree though. At this point Jon seems exactly the same and his resurrection was pretty easy with no real mess or complications. Yeah, he hung Olly but he murdered him after all, he also quit being lord commander... but that's it? At the moment unless more is revealed I have to agree a bit underwhelming upon reflection.
I agree though. At this point Jon seems exactly the same and his resurrection was pretty easy with no real mess or complications. Yeah, he hung Olly but he murdered him after all, he also quit being lord commander... but that's it? At the moment unless more is revealed I have to agree a bit underwhelming upon reflection.
Jon's death is significant because it frees him from obligations to the Night's Watch in a way that makes sense to his character while also learning, obviously the hard way, the price of acting arrogantly for the sake of moral righteousness. Essentially, he repeated the mistakes of his father*. Going forward it will be interesting to see if he has more diplomatic tact and patience having recovered from being betrayed. He can correct the mistakes his father never could. Even if the show doesn't explore this in an obvious way I think it's something we should pay attention to.
Also, Virgo, isn't the consensus by critics and fans that Season 6 is really great? Although to be fair I thought critics massively overrated Season 5.
For me, Season 4 > 3 / 1 (drama/scale vs cohesion) > 2 > 5
If Season 6 continues at this quality it'll probably be just behind "3/1" if not equalled. I'm incredibly impressed with 90% of it, with some of this stuff being the best content the show's ever done.
-Vader
Also, Virgo, isn't the consensus by critics and fans that Season 6 is really great? Although to be fair I thought critics massively overrated Season 5.
For me, Season 4 > 3 / 1 (drama/scale vs cohesion) > 2 > 5
If Season 6 continues at this quality it'll probably be just behind "3/1" if not equalled. I'm incredibly impressed with 90% of it, with some of this stuff being the best content the show's ever done.
-Vader