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Meh, I give this video a C- for effort but it is waayyy too reliant on memes that she found on reddit and she usually brings a lot more interesting analysis to the table and does not rely on blogs with out-of-context or quotes as her main sources and she makes some rather weird unfounded insinuations in this too (for example, how would she know that they decided to have 6 episodes in season 8 just so they could get to Star Wars when they have been talking about the 73 hour movie for literally years at this stage? I think the documentary that was released post-season 8 contradicts this assertion too). This makes her analysis seem rather sloppy and I usually expect better from her, even when I don't agree with her assessments all the time. The quality of this video, as a result, is rather disappointing, as it's mainly a simplistic recapitulation of the plot with added zingers. It's also weird that the people who hate the show have adopted Robert Baratheon as their mascot when the character represents tons of problems in both the show and the books. I also find it rather rich that she made a video on death of the author a while ago and now clings to old D&D quotes like they are absolutely essential to engaging with, and interpreting, the material.

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Season 8 of Game of Thrones is now the most nominated single season of television in the history of the medium.


-Vader

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Batfan175 wrote:
June 30th, 2019, 9:18 am
Meh, I give this video a C- for effort but it is waayyy too reliant on memes that she found on reddit and she usually brings a lot more interesting analysis to the table and does not rely on blogs with out-of-context or quotes as her main sources and she makes some rather weird unfounded insinuations in this too (for example, how would she know that they decided to have 6 episodes in season 8 just so they could get to Star Wars when they have been talking about the 73 hour movie for literally years at this stage? I think the documentary that was released post-season 8 contradicts this assertion too). This makes her analysis seem rather sloppy and I usually expect better from her, even when I don't agree with her assessments all the time. The quality of this video, as a result, is rather disappointing, as it's mainly a simplistic recapitulation of the plot with added zingers. It's also weird that the people who hate the show have adopted Robert Baratheon as their mascot when the character represents tons of problems in both the show and the books. I also find it rather rich that she made a video on death of the author a while ago and now clings to old D&D quotes like they are absolutely essential to engaging with, and interpreting, the material.
Triggered by any sort of criticism regarding this series? It’s just an opinion. Very highly regarded one but still.

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m4st4 wrote:
July 16th, 2019, 12:55 pm
Batfan175 wrote:
June 30th, 2019, 9:18 am
Meh, I give this video a C- for effort but it is waayyy too reliant on memes that she found on reddit and she usually brings a lot more interesting analysis to the table and does not rely on blogs with out-of-context or quotes as her main sources and she makes some rather weird unfounded insinuations in this too (for example, how would she know that they decided to have 6 episodes in season 8 just so they could get to Star Wars when they have been talking about the 73 hour movie for literally years at this stage? I think the documentary that was released post-season 8 contradicts this assertion too). This makes her analysis seem rather sloppy and I usually expect better from her, even when I don't agree with her assessments all the time. The quality of this video, as a result, is rather disappointing, as it's mainly a simplistic recapitulation of the plot with added zingers. It's also weird that the people who hate the show have adopted Robert Baratheon as their mascot when the character represents tons of problems in both the show and the books. I also find it rather rich that she made a video on death of the author a while ago and now clings to old D&D quotes like they are absolutely essential to engaging with, and interpreting, the material.
Triggered by any sort of criticism regarding this series? It’s just an opinion. Very highly regarded one but still.
Lol, even highly regarded people can mess up once in a while. If it was well-argued then I would be more positive about it but she essentially just recaps the plot with snarky memes she found on reddit and I definitely expect better from her. She essentially reverted back to her NostalgiaChick days (making jokes while recapping the plot) and I thought she'd grown past that sort of nonsense.

This video not only flies in the face of what she said in her video about the death of the author theory, it is essentially her merely parroting a lot of what she found on reddit once she read the spoilers, which is often bad faith criticism and ad hominem attacks on the showrunners. I don't really care that Benioff thinks that themes are for 8th-grade book reports (he's right but that's beside the point) because I don't care most of the time what the author says about his own work. I look at the work itself so bringing out old quotes and acting like that's the end of the discussion is kinda superficial criticism. She usually brings more to the table than this.

She clearly cared a lot about the show and so her disappointment and her frustration with what she got shines through but it's also a very shallow, surface-level interpretation of the story. She also makes some weird, unsubstantiated accusations against the showrunners. Like, how does she know we only got 6 episodes because they were in a hurry to move to Star Wars when 73-75 hours for this show were what they publicly talked about since around season 2 or 3? How does she know they were lazy or didn't care about their own show? Or how does a clip of an actor changing facial expression somehow indicate that they hate the show they worked on for years? I also really hope the second part uses better sources than blog posts and reddit to make her points because so far I am not really convinced by what I saw here.

In general, if I want in-depth and insightful discussion of this show I turn to Sean T. Collins from Boiled Leather Audio Hour who is a tv critic or Gretchen Felker-Martin. Both have done excellent analyses of the show and they usually stick with what's on the screen and don't engage in superficial mind-reading and ad hominem attacks on the showrunners. A couple of examples of their output are the following:
https://blog.vrv.co/felker-martin/5402/ ... f-thrones/
https://www.polygon.com/tv/2019/6/3/186 ... series-hbo
http://podbay.fm/show/493837433/e/15612 ... utostart=1

I honestly got a lot more out of those 3 examples alone than Lindsay Ellis' video.

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That’s a lot more than I care to chew on right now, sorry.

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Vader182 wrote:
July 16th, 2019, 12:41 pm
Season 8 of Game of Thrones is now the most nominated single season of television in the history of the medium.


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It's quite a feat

also Van Houten got an Emmy nom too!

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Nomis wrote:
July 17th, 2019, 5:16 am
Vader182 wrote:
July 16th, 2019, 12:41 pm
Season 8 of Game of Thrones is now the most nominated single season of television in the history of the medium.


-Vader
It's quite a feat

also Van Houten got an Emmy nom too!
Alfie Allen also finally got a nomination. One of the best actors on the show.

In unrelated news, Ian Glenn, Nathalie Emmanuel, David Benioff and D.B Weiss will no longer be attending SDCC this year: http://watchersonthewall.com/benioff-we ... -con-2019/

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Apparently Gwendoline Christie and Alfie Allen submitted themselves for nominations. :clap: Suck it hbo.

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For which episode are Nutter and Sapochnik nominated?
I don't know if it was the right season to nominate Alfie Allen. John Bradley did more this year, Hijvu, Jacob Anderson and Rory McCann also, imo.
I'm happy all Lannisters are nominated, Headey had a smaller part, but she did really great with what she had.
Not convinced that Harington had a bigger part than Dinklage this season.

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Vader182 wrote:
July 16th, 2019, 12:41 pm
Season 8 of Game of Thrones is now the most nominated single season of television in the history of the medium.


-Vader
It certainly is. But it doesn't deserve it, not by a long shot.

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