HBO's Game of Thrones

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ChristNolan wrote:I can't blame them. Theres a million and one stories that can be told and told well. Which I think is far different than say, the Star Wars universe, which in the end is a lot smaller than it originally seemed.
Star Wars universe is significantly bigger.

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Allstar wrote:
ChristNolan wrote:I can't blame them. Theres a million and one stories that can be told and told well. Which I think is far different than say, the Star Wars universe, which in the end is a lot smaller than it originally seemed.
Star Wars universe is significantly bigger.
Nah. I agree with a lot of your criticisms with RLM but I think they're right when they said on paper Star Wars seems limitless but then we just wind up with lightsabers, stormtroopers, rebels, etc. It never seems to venture much further than that. Disney could have written entirely original and unique stories for their one offs but what did we get instead? Movies about the Death Star, Han Solo, and probably Boba Fett and Obi Wan.

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I'm all for spinoffs but that list of writers does pretty much nothing for me. I would think that given how huge GoT is they could get writers with better track records.

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Just because Disney hasn't taken advantage of the vast potential of the universe doesn't mean it's not there. Either way if Batfan defends this he's a massive hypocrite.

I'm all for this btw.

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Allstar wrote:Either way if Batfan defends this he's a massive hypocrite.
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I do not blindly support this, which must come as a shock to people who assume I watch this show uncritically and defend every artistic decision made on the show. I do not see the reason to expand on the story of ASOIAF/GOT other than to make lots and lots of money. If good, artistic tv comes from it that's great but I don't forget that that is always incidental. If it's good, I'll praise it for its strengths. If it isn't, I'll say it shouldn't have been done. Initially I was also not opposed to a shared MCU universe but after watching a couple of those films that repeated the same tired formula without any innovation, I came to the conclusion that endlessly expanding a story makes no sense, especially if so much potential is wasted. The one thing this spin-off has going for it is that it likely won't be an extension of the story we saw in GOT but rather it would seem to adapt Martin's other material set in ASOIAF set at different time periods that have little to no connection to the story of GOT. The MCU and Star Wars films I have seen were still mediocre at best and I do not see the need for an endless expansion if the films themselves are not of outstanding quality. Same goes for this.

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If it was one spinoff then i would say OK, but coming right out with "yeah we got 4 in the works". That just reeks of cash grab, milk this universe until everyone is sick of it. Not into this. Especially with different people in charge.


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shauner111 wrote:If it was one spinoff then i would say OK, but coming right out with "yeah we got 4 in the works". That just reeks of cash grab, milk this universe until everyone is sick of it. Not into this. Especially with different people in charge.
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Yea, i agree with shauner, 4 spinnoffs is too much. There will not be any focus.
What a shame

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shauner111 wrote:If it was one spinoff then i would say OK, but coming right out with "yeah we got 4 in the works". That just reeks of cash grab, milk this universe until everyone is sick of it. Not into this. Especially with different people in charge.
I don't think that's likely to happen, seeing as there are a lot of different periods and events they can adapt and so they do not have to be connected in any way, which might help them stand on their own. Also, from what I understood, they are merely floating around 4 possible spin-offs so I don't think they will make each and every one of those four a continuous series. Perhaps 3 miniseries and 1 long-term project? I could see the latter option being the case actually, since Marin is involved in 2 of those and if he wants to finish his books he might be able to just write for 2 self-contained miniseries (Dunk & Egg and the Dance of Dragons would be my guess here).

Let's face it, GOT was HBOs biggest hit in years and since they don't have anything else THAT iconic lined up they're trying to make us of the rights to the ASOIAF universe they acquired from Martin because they think it will help them create another iconic and unique show. Will it be great tv? It could be but there was nothing on tv that GOT could be compared to when it first started, being a very serious and adult-oriented fantasy show, of which there are not many. With these spin-offs we now have a point of comparison in terms of scope and quality: GOT.

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Who seriously thinks that HBO is going to develop all 4 shows? I think they are just trying to get the best possible concept on air, so this is going to be survival of the finest (spinoff).

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