It hasn't made 2x its budget and the ROI for FvF is 0.85 while the ROI for Knives Out is 3.075 lol
Sure, but Ford v Ferrari has made more in ticket sales, i.e. more people have seen it. Furthermore, we don’t know the marketing budgets of these movies, so we can’t calculate their efficiencies directly.
So how can you say its marketing failed when more people have seen the movie? You need better evidence to make a causal statement. If you can argue that Knives Out’s marketing was significantly cheaper, and resulted in a higher gross within a specific time window to eliminate effects of say Frozen II being released, you can argue that Knives Out was more efficient with its marketing. You fail, however, because we’re talking about Disney withholding marketing for Fox films, not how the marketing is implemented. (Why would a company puposefully botch marketing sunk costs?) If, on the other hand, Knives Out marketing budget was higher than Ford v Ferrari, your idea that Disney purposefully undermarketed the film might be warranted, but only if it’s reasonable to assume that more marketing spending would have improved its numbers.
Think of it this way: twenty people see a movie ($12 ticket) made for $1 for an ROI of 23,900%! Did this movie spend more on marketing than End Game?
Don't forget FvF also had the added benefit of having IMAX screens too and those tickets are priced higher than the regular screenings. Knives Out didn't have that.
I'll keep an eye out on articles discussing marketing for these films as the films theatrical runs draw to a close. My original post was just a question and not a direct accusation of Disney doing something sinister and I even say in a post that Disney's handling of Fox's archive is a rumor. A lot of people did believe that those films could have done better BO since they would have the Disney machine behind them.
As for purposefully botching marketing sunk costs, WB did this a couple of times this year most notably with the Nancy Drew movie and The Goldfinch. A24 also does this with some of their films too. So it's certainly not unheard of.
He was successful with the theme parks but a lot of that is attributed to the fact that he used recognizable IP's for that. Saw a tweet that talked about how he seee a good idea through the lens of a recognizable IP so there is speculation that we can expect a lot more reboots and sequels in the coming years from Disney.
The new fucker's level of competency will be judged based on whether or not he'd let KK bring back Rian. Then again Iger will still be creatively involved with Disney for a year or two. So maybe after that. lol
This means we likely won't get to see Noelle Stevenson's comic Nimona adapted anymore. Thanks a lot, Disney. No respect for the art form of animation at all.
But hey, I'm sure the billion superhero movies and tv shows that are all the same tired shtick will make up for this....when hell freezes over as far as I'm concerned.
It's a terrible situation for all the talented animators and crew members who are losing their jobs because of this.
But the leadership of Blue Sky is first and foremost to blame for this. The studio has not been profitable in a while because of the low quality products that they have been putting up.
Owned by Fox or Disney, they had very little life in them either way.
It's a terrible situation for all the talented animators and crew members who are losing their jobs because of this.
But the leadership of Blue Sky is first and foremost to blame for this. The studio has not been profitable in a while because of the low quality products that they have been putting up.
Owned by Fox or Disney, they had very little life in them either way.
Yes but did they have to scrap what would have been the studio's last big project that had a mere 10 months of work left to be completed and had been announced in 2015?
Besides, Disney has so much money that they could try to turn Blue Sky into a more successful animation studio had they wanted to.
I know Noelle Stevenson still has Lumberjanes coming out on HBOMax but I am particularly bummed out by this news here because my understanding is that Disney will retain the rights to Nimona, meaning we might never get to see it animated and it's particularly bad because everyone who worked on the film that as going to come out had nothing but great things to say about the work that was being done here.
This means we likely won't get to see Noelle Stevenson's comic Nimona adapted anymore. Thanks a lot, Disney. No respect for the art form of animation at all.
But hey, I'm sure the billion superhero movies and tv shows that are all the same tired shtick will make up for this....when hell freezes over as far as I'm concerned.
That’s probably for the better. Blue Sky wasn’t known for its faithful adaptations.
What did Blue Sky make that was good? Robots? I don’t remember if that was good.
