Finally got to see it.

What a wonderful, wonderful film. The standard for Bond has now reached a new, previously untouched echelon.

ArmandFancypants wrote:Finally got to see it.

What a wonderful, wonderful film. The standard for Bond has now reached a new, previously untouched echelon.

Glad you enjoyed it.

ArmandFancypants wrote:Finally got to see it.

What a wonderful, wonderful film. The standard for Bond has now reached a new, previously untouched echelon.

Casino Royale > Skyfall

07202012 wrote:

ArmandFancypants wrote:Finally got to see it.

What a wonderful, wonderful film. The standard for Bond has now reached a new, previously untouched echelon.

Casino Royale > Skyfall

Nope.

This has the brassy exuberance that a Bond film needs that Casino Royale sometimes wants for. This has a thematic throughline and very strong ideas about the character beyond simply humanising him. This has a third act that feels organic and is the highlight of the film in many ways, rather than a tacked-on gratuitous set-piece. This, despite being an original story rather than one based on a Fleming novel, has those weird elements, those idiosyncrasies that the world of Bond thrives on, which are stripped away from Casino Royale, essentially.

And when it comes to visual storytelling, anything Campbell and Meheux can do, Mendes and Deakins can do 10x better.

ArmandFancypants wrote:

07202012 wrote: Casino Royale > Skyfall

Nope.

This has the brassy exuberance that a Bond film needs that Casino Royale sometimes wants for. This has a thematic throughline and very strong ideas about the character beyond simply humanising him. This has a third act that feels organic and is the highlight of the film in many ways, rather than a tacked-on gratuitous set-piece. This, despite being an original story rather than one based on a Fleming novel, has those weird elements, those idiosyncrasies that the world of Bond thrives on, which are stripped away from Casino Royale, essentially.

And when it comes to visual storytelling, anything Campbell and Meheux can do, Mendes and Deakins can do 10x better.

I loved Skyfall, but I don't see how you can just overlook the simplicity of the plot...it is essentially a revenge plot, nothing more. Luckily, the film focuses in on the internal conflict of Bond having to realize and adapt to an ever progressing world while he is regressing, at least in skill. But the plot, a disgruntled bad guy who seeks revenge, isn't exactly original...I felt Casino Royale had a far more engaging and if not complicated, an intricate and thoughtful plot that had a lot of moving parts that sets it apart from Skyfall.

Skyab23 wrote:I loved Skyfall, but I don't see how you can just overlook the simplicity of the plot...it is essentially a revenge plot, nothing more. Luckily, the film focuses in on the internal conflict of Bond having to realize and adapt to an ever progressing world while he is regressing, at least in skill. But the plot, a disgruntled bad guy who seeks revenge, isn't exactly original...I felt Casino Royale had a far more engaging and if not complicated, an intricate and thoughtful plot that had a lot of moving parts that sets it apart from Skyfall.

Plot is far too mundane a thing to get caught up with. All it is is story delivery. I don't need a Bond "plot" to be complex. I need a Le Carre plot to be complex, sure, that's the world that they're in, but that's not Bond's bread and butter.

And dismissing Skyfall's plot elements as unoriginal completely overlooks the uniqueness of the Silva character - you've got a lunatic villain who continually loses his nerve when it comes to the crunch, he can't even bring himself to execute that revenge, and he gets several opportunities. The guy is basically in love with his target, who he also sees as his mother - that's a bit more interesting than a terrorist banker trying to cover his arse by betting big.

Skyfall on Blu-ray/DVD March 2013. :tooexcited:
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Skyfall-Blu-ray/45621/

ryan4butler wrote:
Skyfall on Blu-ray/DVD March 2013. :tooexcited:
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Skyfall-Blu-ray/45621/

fanboy.

ryan4butler wrote:
Skyfall on Blu-ray/DVD March 2013. :tooexcited:
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Skyfall-Blu-ray/45621/

yes :tooexcited: