The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011)

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mchekhov wrote:In the book there is a way more detailed path towards her trusting Mikael and developing feelings for him that just was left out of the movie.
This is what films in general fails at for me. The ones that have read the book, already know what goes on in the head of the protagonist. But for us who have not read the books, some things feel jumped over, or too sudden. But the more I get to learn about the character, the more I see Rooney's brilliance. And her Swenglish accent is just SO spot on, she has fooled several of my friends who believes she is Swedish.


It doesn't work that way. Having read the book, I not only didn't see those moments, there wasn't even an indication of Lisbeth having those thoughts. It was simply never portrayed.

I think the movie would have worked better if they ended with Blomkvist getting the info on wennerstrom from Vanger. It would've made it feel less convoluted and give them time to develop the relationship between the leads. Book purists would have felt it'd be too much of a deviation but it would've made a better movie. Isnt that the goal?

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mchekhov wrote:


It doesn't work that way. Having read the book, I not only didn't see those moments, there wasn't even an indication of Lisbeth having those thoughts. It was simply never portrayed.

I think the movie would have worked better if they ended with Blomkvist getting the info on wennerstrom from Vanger. It would've made it feel less convoluted and give them time to develop the relationship between the leads. Book purists would have felt it'd be too much of a deviation but it would've made a better movie. Isnt that the goal?
or you just missed the obvious indications of this, the ones i listed


why are you people acting like it should be spelled out? Plus the movie didn't need that many indications. It's a movie after all. A movie with her half naked while Blumkvist having his arm wrapped around her. A movie where they fuck (and by movie rules that means they like each other). A movie where she decides to have sex with a man some days or weeks after she was raped by another man. Where the female character is suffering from millions of insecurities and is looking for a father figure, never getting over herself as a child (emotionally). Where Blumkvist shows kindness that make her eyes sparkle in hesitation. A movie where Blumkvist and Lisbeth's guardian are the only people Lisbeth doesn't speak angrily or snappy to (father figure).

That and the indications I mentioned.

I mean for most movies the chemistry is enough of a catalyst for a love-relationship and here you had chemstry + thousands of ther things and it was jumpy? come on.

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mchekhov wrote:It doesn't work that way. Having read the book, I not only didn't see those moments, there wasn't even an indication of Lisbeth having those thoughts. It was simply never portrayed.

I think the movie would have worked better if they ended with Blomkvist getting the info on wennerstrom from Vanger. It would've made it feel less convoluted and give them time to develop the relationship between the leads. Book purists would have felt it'd be too much of a deviation but it would've made a better movie. Isnt that the goal?
Since I have not read the book, I also felt like something was jumped. But the more I have watched the film, stuff I missed the first time, becomes highly noticeable the second time around now that I know their characters better. The film was for me just perfectly stylized and the soundtrack set the tone, but the story in itself was a little lacking.

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A lot of you guys are missing what I always felt was the primary point of the relationship in a way. We're supposed to be asking what she sees in him of all people, what about him gave her the security to become trusting, feeling safe, and later loving him. It's meant to be slightly ambiguous, forcing you to question the nature of the characters and work a little bit. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo is Fincher's Chinatown, really well executed basic, cliched plots, however you care deeply not about what they're doing, but why.

-Vader

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Vader182 wrote:A lot of you guys are missing what I always felt was the primary point of the relationship in a way. We're supposed to be asking what she sees in him of all people, what about him gave her the security to become trusting, feeling safe, and later loving him. It's meant to be slightly ambiguous, forcing you to question the nature of the characters and work a little bit. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo is Fincher's Chinatown, really well executed basic, cliched plots, however you care deeply not about what they're doing, but why.

-Vader
Vader, once again... You nailed it man. I typed about this movie waaay to much, but yes - I agree.

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Vader182 wrote:A lot of you guys are missing what I always felt was the primary point of the relationship in a way. We're supposed to be asking what she sees in him of all people, what about him gave her the security to become trusting, feeling safe, and later loving him. It's meant to be slightly ambiguous, forcing you to question the nature of the characters and work a little bit. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo is Fincher's Chinatown, really well executed basic, cliched plots, however you care deeply not about what they're doing, but why.

-Vader

but in the book its explained every step of the way why she's falling for him

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I haven't read the books, but in saying my last post (on separate occasions) to people who have, it seems to be in line with their reaction as well. But like I said, I haven't read it, but that was my reaction to both DT films actually.

-Vader

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Vader182 wrote:I haven't read the books, but in saying my last post (on separate occasions) to people who have, it seems to be in line with their reaction as well. But like I said, I haven't read it, but that was my reaction to both DT films actually.

-Vader

i'm pretty sure nobody besides me in the last 2 pages of posts has read the book...since all of them started their posts with "i havent read the book"

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Vader182 wrote:A lot of you guys are missing what I always felt was the primary point of the relationship in a way. We're supposed to be asking what she sees in him of all people, what about him gave her the security to become trusting, feeling safe, and later loving him. It's meant to be slightly ambiguous, forcing you to question the nature of the characters and work a little bit. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo is Fincher's Chinatown, really well executed basic, cliched plots, however you care deeply not about what they're doing, but why.

-Vader

:thumbup:

That pretty much articulates exactly why Girl with the Dragon Tattoo became even stronger to me on the second viewing.

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Fincher has so many small scenes in his movies that i just love, really liked Mara in this scene.

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