Re: Dark Phoenix (2019)
Posted: June 7th, 2019, 8:44 am
okay so how bad was this?
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I can agree with this but at the same time, she's been doing stuff behind the scenes that go beyond surface level. Remember when Octavia Spencer said that Chastain helped her out when negotiating a contract?Ruth wrote: ↑June 7th, 2019, 6:06 amThis. I don't think it applies much to Allstar, because he's had a thing for shitting on Chastain on every occasion. Others don't tend to criticize the "content" of her feminism either, they just hate a feminist who's loudDemoph wrote: ↑June 7th, 2019, 3:39 amYou can be a feminist and not like every feminist, or defend every kind of feminism. You don't abandon your right to have an opinion by recognizing the value of an idea. You can have tastes, opinions that contradict the idea, otherwise the idea becomes an ideological prison, which is terrible imo.
But I'll say this. I support Chastain as an actress, because despite her choices lately, to suggest she lacks artistic capacity to perform is STUPID. She's incredibly talented. And I support her right and need to talk and commit herself to a cause, because we need people like that. But as for her feminism itself... I honestly don't care for it at all. It's not to say I completely disagree with her (although that strong women character interview is at this point perma locked into my brain), but I feel like a lot of what she does is loud, but...vapid. It's like "I support women, they're strong ", which in itself is not a wrong statement, but there's no depth to it, no very necessary complexities of feminism that go way beyond just mere "girl power!". It's like calling bad people bad. Of course it's not her job to be an all educated activist, and just being able to use your power to help attract attention and empower is great, but is she really some modern feminism pioneer, idk man. I don't think so. It's a tricky topic to discuss.
Do you also remember when she hired a director who beat up women? And this happened post MeToo.Artemis wrote: ↑June 7th, 2019, 8:58 amI can agree with this but at the same time, she's been doing stuff behind the scenes that go beyond surface level. Remember when Octavia Spencer said that Chastain helped her out when negotiating a contract?Ruth wrote: ↑June 7th, 2019, 6:06 amThis. I don't think it applies much to Allstar, because he's had a thing for shitting on Chastain on every occasion. Others don't tend to criticize the "content" of her feminism either, they just hate a feminist who's loudDemoph wrote: ↑June 7th, 2019, 3:39 amYou can be a feminist and not like every feminist, or defend every kind of feminism. You don't abandon your right to have an opinion by recognizing the value of an idea. You can have tastes, opinions that contradict the idea, otherwise the idea becomes an ideological prison, which is terrible imo.
But I'll say this. I support Chastain as an actress, because despite her choices lately, to suggest she lacks artistic capacity to perform is STUPID. She's incredibly talented. And I support her right and need to talk and commit herself to a cause, because we need people like that. But as for her feminism itself... I honestly don't care for it at all. It's not to say I completely disagree with her (although that strong women character interview is at this point perma locked into my brain), but I feel like a lot of what she does is loud, but...vapid. It's like "I support women, they're strong ", which in itself is not a wrong statement, but there's no depth to it, no very necessary complexities of feminism that go way beyond just mere "girl power!". It's like calling bad people bad. Of course it's not her job to be an all educated activist, and just being able to use your power to help attract attention and empower is great, but is she really some modern feminism pioneer, idk man. I don't think so. It's a tricky topic to discuss.
I think there is depth to her actions. If she put more depth to her words, people would hate her even more. And right now she gets hate for saying stuff that's kind of shallow.
She made a mistake, was rightfully called out on it, the director left the project, and now the project has a new director.
Or you know just don’t hire the woman beater to begin with and hire a female director. The replacement wasn’t a female either and then she hired Kinberg for her all female spy movie.
What if the female director also beats women? joking aside, she can't change her past actions sadly but damn dude, you really go in on her.