just watched Synecdoche, New York

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I've seen it a couple of times. Pretty great :thumbup:

Watching closely really brings forth some interesting details.

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Yes, I've seen it, and sort of like it, but I think it fails at some level, in some important way. It's still too linear ( flat? ) to convey the depth/three dimensionality of the models of reality that we live in, and the way in which we construct, protect/defend, get lost in, try to escape from, them. It's too abstract, too much the "idea" about them, rather than the experience of them.

I am hoping that this three-dimensionality is what Nolan manages to do with "Inception". :D He managed to create the ( visceral ) experience of living in a model of reality, seeing the cracks, etc, in "Memento", and although I think he did that by inverting "time", ( which mechanism creates multiple/repeated twists, provides new data, in quantities which we would never tolerate in an ordinary film, because after one or two twists we tend to disengage from a film ), and "Inception" obviously doesn't do that, perhaps he has managed to do it with the layers/layering ( I haven't seen it yet ).

Edit: PS. Maybe though I simply didn't like or enjoy seeing a model of reality ( in "Synecdoche" ) from which could not escape in some exhilarating/exciting way, a model of reality which was suffocating, increasingly absurd, limited, rigid, in which people become increasingly interchangeable, and from which all the protagonist manages to do by the end is withdraw/retreat/detach himself somewhat. ... ... ... PPS. Suddenly reminded of Lindsay Anderson's "O Lucky Man".

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prodical wrote:
Eternalist wrote:Saw it. Didn't like it.
would you mind explaining why?
I think it's meaning is interesting (if you got it) but around halfway through the film becomes entirely obsessed with itself and it's own machinations that it fails to be involving.

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Eternalist wrote:
prodical wrote:
Eternalist wrote:Saw it. Didn't like it.
would you mind explaining why?
I think it's meaning is interesting (if you got it) but around halfway through the film becomes entirely obsessed with itself and it's own machinations that it fails to be involving.
I agree there is about 25-30min segment where it falls apart - it suddenly stops envoking that deep emotion it manages in the first half and becomes flat and utterly confounding. The ending though, is just incredible - but it is a very difficult film, but also a very honest one, I liked the way it did not shy away from the more ridiculous elements of the male mind (his fantasies about every woman he meets coming onto him for example). Its a film I found hard to form an opinion on, some of it was just brilliant, Kaufman's use of surrealism seems to resonate emotionally at points in a way even Lynch couldn't manage, but some of it was a total mess. I loved the Little Person song though.

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arizonabay wrote: I agree there is about 25-30min segment where it falls apart - it suddenly stops envoking that deep emotion it manages in the first half and becomes flat and utterly confounding. The ending though, is just incredible - but it is a very difficult film, but also a very honest one, I liked the way it did not shy away from the more ridiculous elements of the male mind (his fantasies about every woman he meets coming onto him for example). Its a film I found hard to form an opinion on, some of it was just brilliant, Kaufman's use of surrealism seems to resonate emotionally at points in a way even Lynch couldn't manage, but some of it was a total mess. I loved the Little Person song though.
I agree completely, but I'd take Lynch over Kaufman any day.

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Eternalist wrote:
arizonabay wrote: I agree there is about 25-30min segment where it falls apart - it suddenly stops envoking that deep emotion it manages in the first half and becomes flat and utterly confounding. The ending though, is just incredible - but it is a very difficult film, but also a very honest one, I liked the way it did not shy away from the more ridiculous elements of the male mind (his fantasies about every woman he meets coming onto him for example). Its a film I found hard to form an opinion on, some of it was just brilliant, Kaufman's use of surrealism seems to resonate emotionally at points in a way even Lynch couldn't manage, but some of it was a total mess. I loved the Little Person song though.
I agree completely, but I'd take Lynch over Kaufman any day.
Same, I love Lynch's films.

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Decent film, but I think I expected too much considering it was a Kaufman movie, plus the fact that he was directing it. I've been a fan since Being John Malkovich, but this didn't really catch my attention like his previous work did. I think it was my fault for over-hyping this, but on repeated viewings you pick up little details and you slowly grow on it. I would give it a 6.5/10. It's worth a watch for Hoffman's incredible acting and the beautiful ending.

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is it comedic aswell?

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James wrote:is it comedic aswell?
Yes. very at times.

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