Star Wars Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (2017)

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What's the point of doing it and then announcing it though?£

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Master Virgo wrote:Any chance that you would commit to doing a piece on this for rogerebert.com, Vader?£
I have a lot to say about the movie, particularly this question in respect to The Last Jedi: is value of authorship of implicitly greater value than narrative cohesion across stories?

But sadly I think life is going to get in the way. It's a crazy hectic time of work, and the holidays are nuts anyway. I'll try to write something somewhere but I really don't know if it'll happen.

But thanks for the interest <3


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Master Virgo wrote:What's the point of doing it and then announcing it though?£
i mean. who wouldn't want the whole world to know that they're idiots. it's like a dream come true - embarrassing yourself over star wars and bigotry


but they did one thing right by announcing this - confirmed that this movie is actually good. Flawed, but good. I was a bit anxious something was "wrong" with me for liking this lol

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Panapaok wrote:Alt-Right Group Takes Credit for ‘The Last Jedi’ Backlash, Bashes ‘Star Wars’ For Including More Women
An alt-right group named Down With Disney’s Treatment of Franchises and its Fanboys is taking responsibility for flooding Rotten Tomatoes with negative reviews of the Rian Johnson-directed blockbuster. One of the biggest headlines surrounding the film has been the fan backlash, specifically the movie’s shockingly low Rotten Tomatoes user score. As of this posting, “The Last Jedi” currently has a 54% user score from over 132,000 reviews.

The number is in direct contrast to the film’s A CinemaScore and 92% critic score on the website, which has made some question what exactly is going on. A moderator for the alt-right group has broken his silence to The Huffington Post to claim that the group has been using bots to significantly bring down the film’s Rotten Tomatoes user score.

The moderator explained to that the group is upset with “Star Wars” for “introducing more female characters into the franchise’s universe.” The group is also not happy that Poe Dameron (Oscar Isaac) has become a “victim of the anti-mansplaining movement” and that characters like Poe and Luke Skywalker (Mark Hamill) are in danger of being “turned gay.” The moderator said men should be “reinstated as rulers of society,” and expressed distaste for the way “The Last Jedi” disrespects the franchise’s history.

“There were supposed to be a trilogy of books and then some after set in the Legends canon. But [Lucasfilm executives] Kathleen Kennedy and Pablo Hidalgo wanted to pursue their own feminist [sic] agenda,” the moderator wrote to The Huffington Post. “I was never going to like ‘The Last Jedi’ anyway because [it] erases everything the Extended Universe ever did.”

As for his issues with the focus on female characters, the moderator said, “Did you not see everything that came out of ‘Ghostbusters’? That's why. I’m sick and tired of men being portrayed as idiots. There was a time we ruled society and I want to see that again. That is why I voted for Donald Trump.”

According to the moderator, the group flooded Rotten Tomatoes with both positive and negative reviews there “scent could be thrown off.” Some of the bots were not efficient, however, which resulted in some of the negative “The Last Jedi” reviews going on to “The Shape of Water” page. A one-and-a-half-star review on “The Shape of Water” page, for instance, reads: “To slow, unnecessary side story about a casino, WHO WAS SNOKE!!!!, and Rose is annoying.”

A Rotten Tomatoes representative told HuffPost they are taking the claim “very seriously” and have a team of “security, network, social, database experts who monitor all of our platforms and they haven’t seen any unusual activity.”
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^ Good. Idiots announcing to the world they are idiots.

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I wonder if Johnson being forced to cut his original 3 hours plus cut, to the more focused current version, has anything to with some of the narrative problems, people are speaking of.£

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Master Virgo wrote:I wonder if Johnson being forced to cut his original 3 hours plus cut, to the more focused current version, has anything to with some of the narrative problems, people are speaking of.£
From my understanding Virgo, he wasn't forced to and all the cut scenes were cut for specific and apparently valid reasons. Knowing what those cut scenes are, I would largely agree. It's more like there's a few key moments simply missing from the movie, and a tendency for characters to talk their way through plotlines instead of actively doing anything.


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LOL

Also QUESTION 1
In TFA, Rey has a vision of Kylo Ren and the Knights of Ren amongst the rubbles of Luke's Jedi Temple, but Kylo has his mask and his red crossguard lightsaber. In TLJ, when Kylo destroys the temple, he didn't have either the mask or his signature lightsaber.
Is this simply a continuity error?

QUESTION 2
Why are Rey and Kylo's minds still linked if Snoke is dead?
Q1:
Well, we all know JJ just made TFA and then gave the reins to the next director. Perhaps JJ had an idea of what exactly happened at the Jedi school but Rian gave it his own explanation. To be honest, I much prefer the way Rian handled it. I loved the two POVs of the same scene.
I doubt Kylo had his outfit at that moment. Not to forget, JJ's scene with Luke and R2 showed rain, Rian's scene didn't.
Anyway, does it really matter? I think not.
Q2:
Guess Kylo and Rey could sustain the link themselves, without Snoke's help. So happy Snoke's dead btw.

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Ramming into the fleet at lightspeed is the most awe inspiring thing I've ever seen.

Total silence followed by a unified gasp from the audience.

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Ramming into the fleet at lightspeed is the most awe inspiring thing I've ever seen.

Total silence followed by a unified gasp from the audience.
That felt like something out of an anime.

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