ArmandFancypants wrote:Rey is

arguably not what a Jedi should be; Luke is. But she is the soldier that the galaxy seems to need again. Johnson upends the roles here by making the hereditary character (Ben/Kylo) the progressive one (an interesting approach to IX might be a reveal that Kylo is seemingly a benevolent ruler and not a brutal oppressor as Palpatine was) and the nobody (Rey)
as the traditionalist (cemented by having her in the gun well as Tie Fighter Attack plays; a direct line into the derring-do of A New Hope).

Ruth wrote:@Vader

Nomis wrote:

I agree, to me Rey does not yet fully work as a character. Episode IX has got some work to do on that part. As for my previous point, I think Rey's stance on Kylo trying to make her join forces with him is a big signal to us; that she backs down from doing something completely wrong says something about her way of thinking. She continuos to stay on the side of the Resistance and help them, which is exactly what she does. For real though, did she ever truly click with Luke? I can't really remember.
Again, I agree that she doesn't fully work yet or at least not really in the third act of this film. It is a pity but I think we can all agree this film belongs to Kylo Ren and Luke more so than it does to Rey...

I was writing this looong post and my browser logged me out lmfao im crying

Anyway,

yes, but she backs off because she realizes she had failed to turn Kylo to the light side, and, yes, because she understands it's the wrong decision, like you said. But it says next to nothing about her actual emotional journey towards finding all of the missing pieces of herself. She's hit with two big realizations in this movie - one being her parentage and the other fact that her views on the jedi and the balance between the dark and light side of the force are very naive and that she, despite her being a persistently good natured person, herself is not protected from delving too deep into these temptations she before would've considered as inherently "wrong" - none of this is how she expected. All of this is topped with her communicating with Kylo and realizing he's not just some random cunt who chose the dark side cuz he could and it's cool - he's a very complicated individual who's actually worthy of empathy. Not JUST a monster she had envisioned before. Her views are shattered. But her rejecting his offer symbolizes her true way of thinking only partially, it's something she's already always been, not something she's become due to the events of TLJ, I'd say and still leaves a lot to be answered. I'm not saying it's necessarily wrong for her to be all smiles, unicorns and rainbows whilst shooting the big guns aboard Falcon (although you'd expect a person to be a bit more distraught after dealing with something that goes beyond just either choosing the goodies or the villains), etc., but it's kind of like there's a point A and the destination point of B, and the road in between shows all of these details and implications that are very important, but instead of us seeing that road and how Rey gets to that point B, she just takes a very random straight jump, and whatever significance it could've had on her symbolic character growth is immediately dulled.

It's like this whole arc works super well for Kylo but not for Rey

Nomis wrote:

Hardy filmed a scene as a stormtrooper, who discovers Finn in disguise as a First Order officer:

A group of stormtroopers get in the elevator and our heroes are nervous they are going to get caught. One of the stormtroopers slowly turns to Finn and gives him a look. Finn turns around in his Imperial officer uniform and asks him what his problem is. The stormtrooper, played by Hardy with a southern accent, says “I know who you are… FN 2187! Damn boy, I never took you for officer material!” The tension is cut by the reveal that the two grew up together, but the troopers are somehow unaware of FN’s treason. While Finn’s act of desertion is a legend in the Resistance, maybe the First Order hid that information from their army so others might not get the same idea.

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