With tiny bit of it missing, stored in R2, who decides to reveal it at a particular time.£

The idea that it's fragmented by Luke to obscure its location isn't a stretch.

R2 wakes up at that point because Kasdan and Abrams suddenly remember what the film's original premise was.

Master Virgo wrote: ↑

January 9th, 2019, 3:52 am

With tiny bit of it missing, stored in R2, who decides to reveal it at a particular time.£

J.J. and Kasdan. It has no in-world sense other than to suddenly move the plot forward. 🕷

It feels sudden and weird now, because Johnson decided to completely ignore it. But what it really seemed to suggest at the time was that, Luke wanted to be found in the right time by the right people. Leaving behind his druid companion to stay dormant precisely since he left.

It hardly felt that he had given up at all. Rather he was looking for a solution in the first jedi temple of all places, still keeping in touch with the force, because he felt that he might still be needing it in the future.£

ArmandFancypants wrote: ↑

January 9th, 2019, 3:58 am

The idea that it's fragmented by Luke to obscure its location isn't a stretch.

R2 wakes up at that point because Kasdan and Abrams suddenly remember what the film's original premise was.

it's messy no question. but I think it's the opposite problem. starkiller's battle stuff needed to be beefed up and taken as seriously as Rey/Ren/Finn/Han's stuff on the ground, otherwise it's just dramatic background scenery.

few things though. starkiller doesn't really forget luke's absence, it highlights it. Starkiller is exactly the type of threat he'd have conquered in the past. I also don't get calling starkiller just a plot device when the thematic imagery is so thick you can cite Robert Wiene. the FO have a weapon that literally destroys light and spreads dark, leading to Poe's line "as long as there's light we still have hope." Which turns out to be sadly prophetic and a catalyst for Kylo's conflicted soul in the play of light on the bridge. as the FO destroys light, hope is lost, and the dark within Ren grows.

or how the forest floor repels Rey and Ren's magnetic pull apart, divided by a chasm of redemptive light. all of which is inseparably linked to Rey's heroes arc. if she didn't experience everything on Starkiller, she wouldn't have the strength to confront Luke.

EDIT: R2 waking up when he does is bullshit, but he had that info from downloading the Death Star Archives, which Kylo references the FO has too. imo would've been better if they had finn download the info off starkiller in the 3rd act.


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it was just bait bro its ok

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Would be pretty funny if Keri Russell ends up playing Rey's actual mom.

This video on TLJ is lovely and the best I've seen in these last 2 years:



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That is a great video.