Nolan Fans

Crazy Eight wrote:It's become the movie my friends and I only ever talk about to share new observations about the bad writing.

Edgy. Almost as much as Batfan.

Haven't you in the past called out people for being overly obnoxious about their opinion when they are in the minority? Well you're hypocrite but that's hardly a surprise.

Let's go over the facts to prove you're in the minority since you have no self-awareness...

RT- 85% 7.5 avg.
imdb- 8.0/10
Most Empire Awards nominations with wins for Film, Director and Actress... something TFA failed to do with two of those. (Voted on by Magazine subscribers)
Most Saturn Award nominations
2 Oscar nominations
Made a billion without reliance on Legacy characters

An objective big success in every possible regard.

Have your opinion and all but like I said don't act like you are with the majority just because a few or your butt buddies agree with you.

Cilogy wrote:I just realized I can't remember Jones even cracking a smile throughout the whole flick.

Why should she smile? What does this character have to smile about? Just to appease you?

Cilogy wrote:"This is a rebellion, isn't it? I rebel."






I just realized I can't remember Jones even cracking a smile throughout the whole flick. I hardly think that's a product of her performance, which I know has been great in other films.

lol true, the characterizations in this film made zero sense. I think a lot of good if not great actors can make the shittiest script work but not when it's this shitty. I didn't even feel anything when the leads all died. That's quite an accomplishment lololol

When there's reasonable spectacle and severe narrative / character / logic problems underneath the hood, ala Spectre, it tends to cripple a movie on rewatches for a certain type of viewer. As they say your mileage varies on your individual tolerance level for that stuff.

I personally can't stomach a movie where the lead character's arc more or less ends at Act I, the third act's sequence of events makes absolutely no sense, the entire "connect to the satellite" subplot leads nowhere and results in many a character death for an empty reason, and the lead villain is a useless ping pong ball that is only at the same locales as the leads out of contrivance and also impacts the narrative about 00% beyond the opening 15 minutes. Tarkin is the true main villain in terms of narrative impact, but the storytelling doesn't present him as such even if the text itself does. So dramatically, the krennick (sp) vs Jyn conflict means relatively little since he's not the true threat to her. Tarkin is. They also make Krennick into an imbecile, which, you know undercuts the whole thing the movie's doing. I get many of you find value in those categories elsewhere but I have a hard time doing so. I'm too distracted.

Issues like these plague the movie all over the place, too many frankly to list.

And RE: yes, absolutely Rogue One is a resounding success by most metrics. Even I, with my compounding issues with the film, can't deny is has extraordinary entertainment value at times especially in the third act. That said, the vast majority of critics only see a movie once. And this impacts their reviews in two ways: 1.) Sometimes misunderstanding the narrative and criticizing them for this (what happens with Nolan's movies at times, where reviewers literally misunderstand the plot) and 2.) Movies that have VERY poor narrative internal logic but are very busy and rousing often cannot identify these issues.


-Vader

Drop my score to a 7.

Could easily change.

Vader182 wrote:, ala Spectre, it tends to cripple a movie on rewatches for a certain type of viewer. As they say your mileage varies on your individual tolerance level for that stuff.

-Vader

You HATED Spectre on first viewing (not the case with this)...and critics did not like it much either on first viewing (also not the case with this. Why is that? Let's take a look at fan reaction.. Spectre has a lousy 6.8 rating while Rogue has a great 8.0 rating (this still may drop a little but not much at this point mind you). So again, the fact is audiences saw tons of problems with Spectre, not even close to with this. You did after multiple viewings and that is fine but right now the comparison does not add up with the majority even if it makes sense to you. But again why were you "smart" enough to hate Spectre on first viewing but this it took you multiple?

Anyone else want to drop their score drastically? This is comedy gold at this point.

I don't hate this movie, but I almost forgot I saw it

I think we broke Allstar.

Ruth wrote:I don't hate this movie, but I almost forgot I saw it

So did I. I keep forgetting it exists. But when characters, music, and story are all forgettable, that's what happens. I'd give it lower than a 7 except I haven't seen it in a while and want to give it the benefit of the doubt.

EDIT: Holy cow allstar

Allstar wrote:

Vader182 wrote:, ala Spectre, it tends to cripple a movie on rewatches for a certain type of viewer. As they say your mileage varies on your individual tolerance level for that stuff.

-Vader

You HATED Spectre on first viewing (not the case with this)...and critics did not like it much either on first viewing (also not the case with this. Why is that? Let's take a look at fan reaction.. Spectre has a lousy 6.8 rating while Rogue has a great 8.0 rating (this still may drop a little but not much at this point mind you). So again, the fact is audiences saw tons of problems with Spectre, not even close to with this. You did after multiple viewings and that is fine but right now the comparison does not add up with the majority even if it makes sense to you. But again why were you "smart" enough to hate Spectre on first viewing but this it took you multiple?

Anyone else want to drop their score drastically? This is comedy gold at this point.