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Batman Begins-Nolan's most emotional film?

Posted: February 4th, 2013, 10:41 pm
by Cilogy
Originally I would have said BB is his most emotional in terms of how much emotional context is presented to the viewer. All of Nolan's films are emotional, but they sort of present that in different ways and in different levels.

TDKR definitely takes the cake. Each film in the trilogy deals with a different Bruce's journey is ending and all of his pain and self-repression sort of comes to a head in the film. If you think about it, the entire film is actually about how most of the main characters are all dealing with large amounts of pain or with some sort of trauma in a very short amount of time.

1. Bruce is the biggest victim of that.
2. Selina is dealing with the pressure of her criminal record and wants to escape it.
3. Gordon is dealing with the guilt of the The Dent Act, his family leaving him, and holds himself responsible for the security of the city.
4. Bane is constantly dealing with physical pain, it's his weakness, and he possibly feels responsible for Talia.
5. Talia is sort of dealing with the trauma of losing her mother, of not accepting her father because of him not accepting Bane, and of therefore trying to alleviate that pain by taking her revenge.
6. Gotham itself is dealing with several things at once, the truth about Dent being revealed, Bane's domination, and a possibly a dystopian future.

I would say, at least for now in my understanding of the film, Blake is the only exception to this rule, because although he was an orphan and feels sort of responsible for the boys' home, he is the film's constant, who remains optimistic and hopeful, maybe that's just a thematic sign of him becoming the next "hero of Gotham".

The emotional implications of all of those things are huge. Not only is Bruce's story incredibly tragic, but then Nolan hits you with this entire backstory to Bane and Talia, which is just as tragic. It's beautiful emotional storytelling.

Batman Begins-Nolan's most emotional film?

Posted: February 4th, 2013, 10:45 pm
by Peace
Cilogy wrote:Originally I would have said BB is his most emotional in terms of how much emotional context is presented to the viewer. All of Nolan's films are emotional, but they sort of present that in different ways and in different levels.

TDKR definitely takes the cake. Each film in the trilogy deals with a different Bruce's journey is ending and all of his pain and self-repression sort of comes to a head in the film. If you think about it, the entire film is actually about how most of the main characters are all dealing with large amounts of pain or with some sort of trauma in a very short amount of time.

1. Bruce is the biggest victim of that.
2. Selina is dealing with the pressure of her criminal record and wants to escape it.
3. Gordon is dealing with the guilt of the The Dent Act, his family leaving him, and holds himself responsible for the security of the city.
4. Bane is constantly dealing with physical pain, it's his weakness, and he possibly feels responsible for Talia.
5. Talia is sort of dealing with the trauma of losing her mother, of not accepting her father because of him not accepting Bane, and of therefore trying to alleviate that pain by taking her revenge.
6. Gotham itself is dealing with several things at once, the truth about Dent being revealed, Bane's domination, and a possibly a dystopian future.

I would say, at least for now in my understanding of the film, Blake is the only exception to this rule, because although he was an orphan and feels sort of responsible for the boys' home, he is the film's constant, who remains optimistic and hopeful, maybe that's just a thematic sign of him becoming the next "hero of Gotham".

The emotional implications of all of those things are huge. Not only is Bruce's story incredibly tragic, but then Nolan hits you with this entire backstory to Bane and Talia, which is just as tragic. It's beautiful emotional storytelling.

Thinking tonight I will watch TDKR.

I'm sure after I watch it I will say how it out does TDK. That's what I do. I like these films too much.

Batman Begins-Nolan's most emotional film?

Posted: April 15th, 2013, 5:13 pm
by Will Jacobs
Batman Begins, The Prestige, and Inception are probably the most emotional. Its a tough call though.

Batman Begins-Nolan's most emotional film?

Posted: May 15th, 2013, 2:27 am
by Darius
I think most of the movies in his filmography have a good emotional core but rises in my eyes is easily the most emotional. The Bruce and Alfred relationship alone elevates rises...none of the other movies showcased that deep bond between them as well as TDKR did.

Most emotional scenes in rises:
The final 5 minutes...every scene with alfred...bruce in the pit suffering and finally making the jump to escape..hell even the first fight vs bane just due to how brutal and intense it is especially the first time...batman never looked so fraile and human.

I think the runner up would be Inception due to the dom and mal story.

Re: Batman Begins-Nolan's most emotional film?

Posted: June 18th, 2013, 10:41 pm
by MeLVaNoaTe
Memento
Inception
TDKR

Re: Batman Begins-Nolan's most emotional film?

Posted: August 6th, 2013, 4:28 am
by m4st4
Z. Cobb wrote:Inceptions ending was up there. Cobb talking to his kids about Mal no being here anymore. Mal herself. its pretty tragic.
Pretty much. But as much as his movies can feel cold from the outside, there's a warm heart beating in each and every one of them, otherwise we wouldn't like him as much.

Re: Batman Begins-Nolan's most emotional film?

Posted: September 22nd, 2013, 3:05 am
by MeLVaNoaTe
Memento - Guy Pearce really sells Leonard Shelby. That whole speech about how it takes time to heal and how you can't heal if you can't feel time. The way Guy Pearce expresses how he missed his wife is also phenomenal as compared to...

Inception - Leonardo DiCaprio didn't bring that much emotion into Inception as compared to Pearce. A very good performance or perhaps more emphasis on the Cobb and Mal relationship would have made Inception far better emotionally.

The Dark Knight Rises - Caine's monologue; Talia's monologue, Bruce in the pit etc. The most emotionally engaging Batman film.
Bruce's dea...oh sh*t.

Re: Batman Begins-Nolan's most emotional film?

Posted: October 14th, 2013, 7:46 am
by darthnazgul
I think The Dark Knight Rises has a bigger range of emotion than any other Nolan film. Well, I find Inception to be more so, but that's only for my personal feelings on the film. Rises deals with both tragedy and triumph, in far bigger extremes than the first two films. While Begins still covers these, in an arguably more thematic level, it isolates each emotion for a specific point of the film. With The Dark Knight Rises, you feel both vulnerability and hopefulness, often in the same scenes as one another. This is apparent at two points; Bane's monologue in the prison, and the ending.

As if he's talking directly to the audience, Bane tells Bruce of how there can be no true despair without hope. The film relies on the expectations of the audience, much in the same way that The Dark Knight did with its tropes. As an audience, we think we know that the hero will always make it. They'll always get the girl, save the city, or survive the ordeal. Rises puts these expectations, and puts them in the shadow of their emotional counterparts. Bruce already lost the girl and loses her again, the city is already taken over, and Bane already broke him.

And yet, despite all of that, the movie still fulfills our expectations. More than any other of Nolan's filmography, it shows that despite how cynical its worldview can be, no matter how damaged the protagonist, there is always hope. And the ending takes that one step further, through mourning and celebration of the caped crusader. The Batman is dead, but Bruce Wayne lives.

Man, I feel like Vader if he didn't bother using a thesaurus.

Re: Batman Begins-Nolan's most emotional film?

Posted: October 17th, 2013, 2:59 am
by Master Virgo
Anyway this is how I would rank Nolan's films in terms of being emotionally involving from the most to the least.

1. Batman Begins (9.2/10)
2. The Prestige/Inception (9.0/10)
3. The Dark Knight (8.8/10)
4. The Dark Knight Rises (8.5/10)
5. Insomnia/Memento (8.2/10)
6. Following (2/10)

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