steveportee wrote:Mr. Caine wrote:Captain Obvious strikes again!!!
I'm simply pointing out that Batman is also directly responsible for someone's death in TDK, and it isn't just something that happens in Batman Begins.
But thanks for that very helpful response.
That's a good point I hadn't considered. About Harvey, I mean. Hmm. I dunno, I don't like this. In The Dark Knight that's slightly different, he's actively saving some people by pushing him off that area with him, but in Batman Begins... it's just too direct without much cause.
Batcat wrote:Vader182 wrote:That is awful logic. That's like setting a house full of people on fire and saying you don't know they're going to die, so you're not really killing them.
No because Ra's was the one who wanted to destroy Wayne's enterprise (and the city if I remember correctly but I have to do a re-watch ) with the train at the beginning, Batman didn't decide to kill Ra's by destroying a train or anything, he just said he didn't have to help him escape. Ra's is not like an innocent person who has no way of getting out of the situation (like the people in the house you're talking about) Ra's is full of ressources and ideas, so he could have had a way out.
That said, I never said that Batman's choice was the right one, I think it showed that he is human and has his dark side too that's why it wasn't a wrong writing decision.
Batman's code is to 'not kill' and this is centered on all the villians obviously, how 'good' or 'bad' they are doesn't factor into this.