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The famous 2000 film that put Christopher Nolan on the map tells the story of a man on the hunt for the man he thinks killed his wife.

173 of of the 500 Greatest Movies of All Time

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thats awesome, TDK is 15, good job Nolan :thumbup:
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Memento should be number 1 :lol:
Anyways dont you think that ALL batman films are for some reason rated higher and praised more then anywere in the world ;)
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chee wrote:
George wrote:This and The Prestige should have been much higher on the list. And Batman Begins lower.

I think The Prestige is a little debatable. It was a hit or miss with people.

Memento should've gotten 81, Batman Begins should've got 173.


I think this list, like the other ones, has some good points but many arguable.

The Dark Knight is a great movie, personally one of the best I've ever watched, and the 15th position is right (I'd put it higher though..)
Memento should be higher than Begins, and both should be above 100.

George wrote:Only 4% of the votes for The Dark Knight were by people under the age of 18.
And regardless, why can't people like The Dark Knight more than 12 Angry Men? I've seen 12 Angry Men. It's great, but I think The Dark Knight is better.


you rock.

George wrote:IMDB's Top 250 is a great list. It has a wide variety of excellent domestic and foreign films.


except the fact that Shawshank Redempion is first... a good movie, but not a masterpiece, and definitely not better than Godfather pt. 1, 12 Angry Men, The Good The Bad The Ugly, The Dark Knight...
Too bad Dark Knight is gone out of top10.. but at least Inception is firmly at n 4!
Rottentomatoes is a good list, but it has some bad choices too.. Iron Man 95% and The Dark Knight 93% is absolutely wrong...

rbevanx wrote:I honestly think The Dark Knight is overrated


why!?

rbevanx wrote:I still dont understand why Memento is 34 or something and The Dark Knight is number six. I
t's just daft if you ask me.


Memento is brilliant and genious... but TDK is superb and revolutionary. They're both masterpieces, but TDK is good under EVERY aspect or detail.

Eternalist wrote:A Clockwork Orange is one of only three Stanley Kubrick movies I haven't seen yet.


you should see it as soon as possible :D
I think it's his best after 2001..
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This is how I'd put them in my list (250)

As a fan of Mr.Nolan:
Memento - 2
Batman Begins - 45
The Prestige - 15
The Dark Knight - 5
Inception - 1

As a film critic:
Memento - 5
Batman Begins - 80
The Prestige - 30
The Dark Knight - 15
Inception - 10

(Aprox.)
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Eternalist wrote:
George wrote:See I vote on IMDB sort of with my current standards for movies. I think we can all honestly admit that a lot of the older "classics" feel dated now. I'm not really concerned with how influential a movie is. If I watch it today and it just doesn't hold up well, I don't really care how much of a classic it is considered and I won't give it a very high score.

I also don't like hearing people say things like "well its a classic, you're supposed to like it"


It appears we have a lot in common. I've taken a lot of heat for saying that I don't like certain films widely considered to be classics. I find that a lot of classics just don't end up living up to their reputation. I didn't like Roman Holiday, The Night of the Hunter, West Side Story, The Apartment, The Bicycle Thief, L.A. Confidential or In Cold Blood and I would rate them lower accordingly despite their "influence" in cinema and the fact that almost everyone else likes them.



+1. I've watched a load of supposed 'greats' that I just found dull and overrated. Citizen Kane, The Godfather, Blade Runner..... didn't live up to their hype for me. The classics are being made right now, by a certain Mr. Nolan; I just hope we won't look back in fifty years and think the same about his films.
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Memento should be higher than The Dark Knight, although I love TDK to death. But Memento is just kind of indescribably amazing, especially how it is chronologically presented. It is the first Nolan film I ever saw, and I have been a massive fan ever since.

However, TDK does have one thing that no Nolan film has: Heath Ledger's "Joker". That acting performance alone is going to be hard to top for years to come.

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Eternalist wrote:
It appears we have a lot in common. I've taken a lot of heat for saying that I don't like certain films widely considered to be classics. I find that a lot of classics just don't end up living up to their reputation. I didn't like Roman Holiday, The Night of the Hunter, West Side Story, The Apartment, The Bicycle Thief, L.A. Confidential or In Cold Blood and I would rate them lower accordingly despite their "influence" in cinema and the fact that almost everyone else likes them.



+1. I've watched a load of supposed 'greats' that I just found dull and overrated. Citizen Kane, The Godfather, Blade Runner..... didn't live up to their hype for me. The classics are being made right now, by a certain Mr. Nolan; I just hope we won't look back in fifty years and think the same about his films.


I am kind of in the middle in regard to the "classics". I have beefed up my collection in the past few years and have watched many of the Hollywood classics in order to see what all the fuss was about. For me, I love watching these films as it is incredibly interesting to see where Hollywood started, how it has evolved, and where many of today's older stars got their starts. Many of these classics are some of my favorites of all-time and hold up extremely well, such as:

-The Godfather (my favorite film, but hated it the first time I watched it)
-Apocalypse Now
-2001: A Space Odyssey (blew my mind)
-The Good, The Bad and the Ugly
-A Clockwork Orange
-Raging Bull
-Chinatown
-Gone With the Wind
-8 1/2
-M (by Fritz Lang)
-Any Hitchcock film (Notorious, Psycho, Strangers On a Train, Rear Window, Vertigo, etc.)

However, there are also "classics" that I just don't quite appreciate. Not saying that these are bad movies, just that I personally did not connect with them or understand their apparent greatness, such as:

-Scarface
-Lawrence of Arabia (beautiful but dull)
-Blade Runner
-On the Waterfront
-Citizen Kane (I really appreciate the technical/visual brilliance of it, just not the story)
-The Rules of the Game
-Sunset Boulevard

All in all, I definitely recommend watching these "classics" just to at least be familiar with them and have a better formed opinion about them. And I have developed a love for black-and-white film, which has opened my eyes to older movies that I can now tolerate and even appreciate.
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@Slask

Sorry for the late reply but better late than never :lol:

Why I think The Dark Knight is overrated

I mentioned my many problems with the film before on another thread

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=126&start=10

At the end of the day a film has flaws no matter what film it is. But Memento is flawless in terms of narrative and chrachter and it's a fair argument back that it's just my view etc but I like Howard The Duck for example. But because I like it and it has a cult following for example does not mean it's a good film, if anything and being honest...it's a terrible film!!!

Now with The Dark Knight it drags, mainly towards the end

I didn't like it when we are trying to watch Harvey and the Joker in the hospital, and we kept getting cut to a scene that felt completely flat and the music score changes to add to it.
I didn't care if Bruce crashed the car or the cop was gonna shoot the guy who knew Batman's identity. I cared about what was going on between Harvey and the Joker.
It was the same thing at the end with the boat, we didn't need to see what was going on in the boat and it would have added to that moment where they didn’t blow each other up and the Joker is proceed wrong by Batman's optimism of people.
Because we knew the convicts had already thrown their remote away and the bald man wasn't gonna press the button.

I still think Nolan should have cut out the parts where we see what’s going on in the boat and not interrupting the scene with the Joker and Harvey in the hospital.


On the IMDB rating being the way to judge a film is a classic.

I don't agree with it and there are some films that come in and out of the top 250 all the time which should be cemented in there, films like The Truman Show and the original Planet of the Apes for good examples.

Also and my main argument against IMDB rating system towards a film.
When a film comes out most people are caught up in the hype of the film and you can't change your vote but the system just adds another vote. I have talked to loads of people who watched The Dark Knight in the summer of 2008 and "loved it" and after watching a little bit later totally agreed with some of the weaknesses of the film, some even agreeing Batman Begins was better.
No one I have met have changed their minds after watching Memento for example as some just watched it on DVD or watched it in the cinema, when in the UK it didn't have that much hype in comparison to The Dark Knight.
It happens with all the blockbusters like Iron Man 2 and Pirates etc they get in the top 250 while other great films go out. People in general are snobby and don't wanna watch a film like 12 Angry Man or Dr Strangelove because it's B&W etc.

So according to IMDB's top 250 Planet of the Apes is no where near as good as Iron Man 2.

I think we can all agree that the original Planet of the Apes is a better film than Iron Man 2.
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