nolan never gives his movies happy endings, and its not him to do it with bruce. but he sure as hell deserved it. its just hard for me to accept that the end is real when like all of his movies are ambigious, i mean he throws some killer mind bender movies. but if it is ever confirmed to be real the...

This confirms that it was not Alfred's fantasy. Are you watching closely? http://www.modernmythmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/photo-12-e1359630815267.png Look at bale's forhead, there is a scar? Why would Alfred dream a scar made by Bane's beating? He didnt see it, right? Now you will say, ho...

yes, it has to be. and it breaks my heart that he killed my favorite hero.

another point about the autpilot being moot is that the nuke was too heavy! he had to fly the bat to the end. :cry: AUTOPILOT it was to heavy for the autopilot to carry it braked. even your boy vader admited bruce died in the explosion. and he was a staunch defender that said bruce survived at first.

another point about the autpilot being moot is that the nuke was too heavy! he had to fly the bat to the end.

i thought i already did, appologies if i didnt. all of the so called clues are nothing imo but hope. yes he did install autopillot but do you think he would risk a malfunction to it...and even if he did try to escape he would have still perished, thematicly there was just no time left.even the last ...

i mean its just my opinion, but i think bruce took the pearls with him to his doom, knowing it was his most valuable possession in his life. the scene of selena at the end is one where she is in soft focus. which to me means he was definitly dreaming. or maybe he tracked the pearls and saw selina a...

i mean its just my opinion, but i think bruce took the pearls with him to his doom, knowing it was his most valuable possession in his life. the scene of selena at the end is one where she is in soft focus. which to me means he was definitly dreaming. or maybe he tracked the pearls and saw selina an...

what are you not convinced of yo gamble? that they wont make a batman beyond or that bruce died?

well gordon saw them kiss and im sure they talked to alfred at the funeral and talked about what happened after alfred left. so alfred chooses to see selina at the end, not rachael and definitly not miranda.